Transcript for It's Dead, Jim.
0:00:00 Marc
The Democrat Party is facing an existential crisis. Not because it lost the Oval Office and the House of Representatives in the recent election, but because it lost its way as the voice of the working class.
Not so long ago, the only differences between a Republican and a Democrat was that a Democrat wanted the government to protect the job they have and to ensure that the job they have today is the job they have tomorrow – and to provide a safety net for times of trouble and unemployment.
That may be hard to believe after twenty years of expanding distance between the parties, but if you compare the party platforms of 1992, you will see that is not too far off the mark.
During the last twenty years, the major parties have moved away from each other ideologically and civilly. Perhaps more saliently, party leadership has moved away from the people. As Neo-conservatism hijacked the Republican party, the Democrat Party was overtaken by the New Left. These factions were and are well-represented in the aristocracy and academia, but as party leadership drove the platforms further into the fringes of their respective ideologies, the average citizen has been left to contemplate the benefits of their party allegiance.
In the race to fringe, the Democrat Party left its core constituencies behind: the blue-collar middle class, the working poor, and the destitute. When globalism exploded during the 1990’s, the Democrat elites could not be distinguished from the Republican elites as they embraced a global economy that exposed unprotected global labor force and the heretofore unimagined profits that could be extracted from it. Millions of manufacturing jobs moved overseas, pulling the rug from under the Democrat’s core constituency: blue collar union workers.
The Democrats were so focused on creating Democratopia that in 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton told an audience that she would put coal companies out of business. She tried to temper that statement with promises of jobs in renewable energy, but the damage was done.
The Democrats were driving party ideology over livelihoods; over the ability of constituents with limited occupational options for putting food on the table and children through college – and maybe a little extra for a reliable vehicle that does not leave them stranded on the way to work every other month.
Since 2000, the Democrat agenda has been to remake American society in its own image. Incessant exhortations of inclusion promised a welcoming society for all, but that inclusion applies only to people who think and act like the Democrat elite, who use their surrogates in entertainment and news-like media to bully and demonize anyone who does not – which is the exact opposite of a free society, for anyone not following along.
The Democrats’ continuous mantra of ‘Anyone but Trump, so pick us’ since 2016 has dominated the airwaves and bitwaves, overwhelming any potential recognition of their barren political platform by the allegiant and curious alike. All the while, seemingly unconscious of the long term consequence of such an emotionally charged and intellectually vacuous strategy – if it could be called that.
The Democrats’ message is so weak that self-described communist and Social Democrat Bernie Sanders gave former Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton a run for her money in the 2016 presidential primary season. Not one to be deterred by lack of substance, Hillary simply invoked the Democrat Party’s nuclear option of Super Delegates and bounced Bernie from consideration.
That leads to the 2024 so-called Democratic Process where a person who was awarded zero delegates during the primary season was ordained by the Democrat Party elite to succeed the democratically nominated Joe Biden as their candidate. This un-democratic process was eclipsed by a candidate who failed to elucidate a compelling vision and coherent platform for the post-Biden period. Whether this was a failure by the party to construct a cogent message or a failure by the candidate to deliver the message remains an open question, but the historical evidence points to the former.
The Democrat Party that was steam-rolled by Ronald Reagan in 1980 and has been doing its best Weekend at Bernies impression since Al Gore’s presidential bid in 2000 has been revealed finally for the parasite-infested carcass that it is.
With establishment stalwarts Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi aging out of their roles, what young leaders will emerge to redefine the Democrat Party for Generation Beta?
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00:06:28 Marc
I am Mark Jacobin. My co-host is James Jacobin. We are the Jacobin Brothers. And this is truth and other lies. James, when precisely, did the Democrat Party lose the audience?
00:06:47 James
I would say it began in the mid-90s when President Bill Clinton and that iteration of the Democratic Party decided to join the Republican Big Corporate Money. I mean big corporate money. This is when they started moving away from the unions, although the unions didn't know it yet. Then Clinton decided that they wanted their piece of the pie for those big donations. And so they started accepting the money from Main Street and that's when they started moving away from Wall Street. I know it's cliche, you're at all the time, but you asked the question and it started in the mid-90s.
00:07:17 Marc
I think you meant to say, moved away from Main Street and went to Wall Street.
00:07:21 James
Even I have been corrupted by it.
00:07:25 Marc
I think that when you look at history, that Reagan defeat, although there may not have been a causal effect at that point in time, the path of history seems to believe that that's where the Democrat Party started to have its problems. Even though they still held Congress right up until 1992 for the most part, you had the migration to big money donors in the 90s. You had the Al Gore campaign in 2000. Al Gore was not the Democrat Ronald Reagan. He certainly wasn't any version of Bill Clinton. Al Gore was supposed to be Bill Clinton's third term, metaphorically, like Papa Bush's election was Ronald Reagan's third term, but he just couldn't seem to pull off the enthusiasm the way Bill Clinton did.
00:08:10 James
No, I mean, Al Gore is the type of person that you're talking to. He was saying, "That's a very fine point, Mark Zuckerberg. I think I'm right because of this." You could explain to him the theory of relativity and you still have something to add to it. He's just that guy.
00:08:26 Marc
He's just that guy. It might have been the fact that he kept doing those town halls in his "mom jeans", as they called them.
00:08:33 James
Yeah. How did we start talking about the 2000 election? Well, Marc the Democratic Party realized something that was coming in the 90s and up was Big Tech. The Big Tech was coming. Think about this. The Democrats don't know class they had in the 90s was their union donations. The Democratic Party was the blue collar party since the days of FCR, since the days of a new deal. You want to talk about a solid union voting block? It was the union. It tends upon tens upon millions of voters through different regions of the country. The Democratic big leagues realized they wanted to keep up with the Republicans in that big corporate money. It was big donations. And back then, the Republicans were being funded by Big Tobacco, Big Oil, Big Liquor, and the Democrats wanted to hit on the piece of the pie, and so they got it.
00:09:18 Marc
And then you fast forward to the Obama campaign in '08. Obama taps into a new found sector of fundraising, which is grassroots small money donations through social media.
00:09:30 James
He opted out of public funding, matching public funds for the person in the selection, and he got most of his donations online in the amounts of ten and twenty dollars in average still regular people. But that was only really temporary though. It's only temporary because you can only go to the people so long for money. Obama also opened up the entertainment donor class. Now, entertainment, as people call Hollywood, always has been a little more left with the politics of their donations. But Obama cozied up to the entertainment industry so closely that the donations came in in record amounts from that area for a few reasons. One, they loved Obama. Just loved him. And two, during Obama's first term, I believe, is when Citizens United came down the pike. The Supreme Court said corporations are also people, and you could do unlimited money to super PACs. Well, there's a lot of wealth in Hollywood, Marc
00:10:19 Marc
Yes, there is. So here you have evidence of cracks appearing in the Democrat base, especially with the unions. Now move ahead to the 2016 election. You have Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump. By all traditional metrics, this should have been a slam dunk for Hillary Clinton.
00:10:40 James
Oh, there should have been no doubt. Even if it wasn't a slam dunk for Hillary Clinton, and I think this is where I was wrong when I predicted the 2016 election, where I had Hillary winning by just a few electoral votes. I never in a million years thought that she would forget to go to Wisconsin and Michigan, and that she could lose the upper Midwest states, which are completely driven by union votes from steel workers in Pennsylvania to auto workers and textile workers. And that entire region is union, union, union. and it moved away from the Democrats and moved away from Hillary in 2016.
00:11:09 Marc
And it certainly didn't help that Hillary went to the Rust Belt and the Coal Belt and said your jobs are going away and they're not coming back to get over it.
00:11:16 James
Yeah, that's an actual quote from my Democrat and the real friends who always get up something I bring that up. Hillary said that and she meant that as candidate Clinton meant that. Now she may have been right from a commonsense standpoint that the industry was dying, but you don't go mock and make fun to their face of that industry and then ask them for their vote.
00:11:35 Marc
But as a politician and I can't believe I have to tell her this, Hillary, it's okay to lie.
00:11:41 James
Or even better, it's okay to provide leadership. It's okay to provide leadership. To go to your voting base and explain to them that times have changed. We have an automobile and not a horse. We have electricity, not candles.
00:11:55 Marc
But I think this is also symptomatic of the Democrat push for the Democrat ideals across the society and not necessarily about providing good union jobs. Where are the good union jobs in the green energy sector? Can you point them out?
00:12:11 James
There isn't any. There's just billions and billions of dollars being lost in corruption to the so-called green sector, the green new deal. All this grants and billions of dollars are money being awarded to people to start green companies. That just goes into the pockets of the people who fund the companies, found the companies, run the green companies, don't get off the ground, they don't succeed. They don't provide good jobs and they didn't replace the union jobs. Marc, because at the same time the Democrats were screwing the unions by moving to Wall Street to get their money, they were also moving away from them culturally.
00:12:45 Marc
So let's fast forward from 2016 to 2024, we're now in the Harris Trump era. Again, by traditional metrics, Harris should have had the advantage. She doesn't. Where did she go wrong?
00:13:00 James
Well, Kamala Harris … a lot of people want to equate the Harris and the Clinton campaigns and boil it down to one thing. Trump is Trump and they're the candidate with female and there must be a sexism problem in the country. A female candidate can't beat Trump. Harris and Clinton in most ways, to me, couldn't be more dissimilar, Marc. The only thing they have in common is they are Democrats and they are women. Clinton came out of the Clinton machine. This was the old school Democrats now. I'm getting old. Th– the Clintons came by in the 90s, but they ran the Democratic Party, it's fair to say, up until very recently when the Obama took over. Her job was to go in there, Clinton's job and just tell the Democratic Party line, "I feel your pain, unions, middle class, working class vote, liberal welfare programs, anti-war, and let's go home." And the Democrats have been running on that forever. Obviously, we talked about how Hillary Clinton screwed that up in 2016. By 2024, though, they weren't running on that anymore. Especially on cultural issues. VP Harris and the Democrats can deny this. All they want is – but their own spokespeople, their own campaign admitted it is they lost the plot on cultural issues. They lost the plot on defund the police. They lost the plot on boys playing girl sports and many other cultural issues. And then they went right back to their voting base and said vote for these things which you do not want. But you do not understand. And if you don't, we're just going to call you names, but you better vote for them. And they assume that their platform didn't need a candidate. When Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and George Clooney fired sitting President Biden through his re-election campaign, they were just hoping that Trump was so bad and that they had the majority voting block in the country. They could substitute any candidate. Because Hillary Clinton was actually a qualified, formidable candidate and probably would have been a just as good a president as any two party oligarch president. We've had recently. Kamala Harris not qualified to be president.
00:14:59 Marc
So they were just extending their mantra of Orange Man Bad and hoping that would win the Oval Office.
00:15:05 James
Right. We've covered this in prior episodes so I never actually came out with an agenda or a plan because they don't have one.
00:15:11 Marc
Let's take a break and come back with more, more what? It's dead Jim.
00:15:16 James
Exactly. We don't even know it's dead.
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00:15:41 Marc
Democrats have controlled Congress for 56 of the last 90 years compared to Republican control of Congress for 18 years. For 16 years, neither party held bold houses. Democrats held Congress for 60% of that time period compared to 20% for Republicans. And Democrats were responsible for every major piece of social legislation in the 20th century starting with Social Security in 1935. The minimum wage, the 40 hour work week, the GI Bill, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, OSHA, the EPA, the Federal Department of Education, Government-backed student loans, women's participation in collegiate sports. And public assistance, A.K.A. welfare are all products of Democrat control of Congress. The Democrats also gave us the Federal Reserve, the CIA, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the National Speed Limit, SUVs, and most recently, the unmitigated disaster that is the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. James, most of these programs are now faltering under the Jupiter-sized weight of their unfunded liabilities. But many of them were welcomed at inception and effective for a number of years after they were created. Which ones were most helpful for improving the lives of individuals?
00:17:35 James
I'm going to start, Marc, right on the top with the Civil Rights Act. Followed shortly thereafter by the Voting Rights Act, Title IX, which equalized funding for college athletics for a minimum of sports, which was probably the greatest thing for female sports ever. Minimum wage, moving down the list here, the 40 hour work week, the Workman Compensation Program, another pretty good, pretty fair program that works out for the public sector, private sector, the employer, and the injured employee. OSHA. The EPA, the initial food stamps program. The ones that didn't work, the list mark I could go on forever and ever, and ever, I'm just going to name two big ones, that everyone's heard of. Social Security Act of 1930s and the Department of Education. As Joe Biden likes to say, this is bipartisan, this is a bipartisan piece of legislation. It's pretty much generally accepted in a bipartisan way for voters that the Department of Education needs to be wholly reformed or scrapped.
00:18:30 Marc
Of course, every state has its own Department of Education. This isn't the 1930s where the majority of American states have the economies of third world countries and were largely farmland. Very few states had the economies and the structures that they have today. Right now, every state could be its own country, economically speaking, within the world. And that was exactly how the founders imagined it. That states were not administrative districts of the federal government, but they were their own states with their own laws and rules and cultures.
00:19:03 James
That's why they are called states and not provinces or territories more. They are called states for a reason. You want to have the big worry now that if states were on their own educations, deep southern states would teach race relations a certain way in their school books like they did in the deep south so many decades ago because it's too hard to administer from the federal level. It's just brass tacks. It has nothing to do with ideology when I'm talking about this. Turn it back over to the states and give them some federal funding to support states with the distribution of the textbooks.
00:19:32 Marc
I have a better idea. Stop stealing the money from the people and then extorting it back to the states. Let the people keep their money and then they wouldn't need federal dollars.
00:19:41 James
And by the people you mean the state?
00:19:43 Marc
Exactly.
00:19:44 James
Like anything, the federal government doesn't want to give it up, Marc. There's been plenty of conservative administrations and conservative congresses since the turn of the century, 25 years ago. And we still have it and it still gets bigger because it's such a huge apparatus. There's so much free money for the administrators. It's so much political pull and there's so many wedge issues involved. You could run it much better from the state level. At least, that's what I think.
00:20:07 Marc
I agree. Getting back to the things they did right. We'll say it again, Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Title IX. These are probably the three most important pieces of legislation of the 20th century in terms of social advancement. Followed closely by 40 hour work week, minimum wage, workmen's comp. The next time you get overtime, thank a Democrat. The next time you're safe at work, thank a Democrat. The next time you're at work and you're not exposed to toxic chemicals because of the EPA, thank a Democrat.
00:20:39 James
I'm going to add to that. Don't think the Democrats you know, thank their great grandparent.
00:20:45 Marc
Touche!
00:20:46 James
We're oversimplifying very complicated topics.
00:20:49 Marc
What we're trying to illustrate here, James, is that the Democrats had a lot of control during the 20th century, especially in the modern era, pre and post-World War II because they controlled the Congress. They had good ideas and they were a force majeure throughout American history, culturally, politically. But since 1980, they have faltered and their ability to drive the country the way they had and to be in touch with what the people wanted. Because every one of these programs that we've listed, the people wanted when it happened. It's not like they were forcing legislation down people's throats.
00:21:27 James
Exactly.
00:21:28 Marc
That's the difference there, Marc
00:21:29 James
The legislation and the stuff that the ideas put forth from the New Deal to some of these policies in the 60s that came out of LBJ and all that, they were good for all low income people, not just union people or minority sector people, all low income people of all races, of all genders. And there are common sense things that were long overdue. There were things that probably shouldn't have had to have legislation for. Like we have to have a civil rights act because we weren't treating all the citizens equally. We have to have other things like the workman's comp because companies wouldn't do the right thing. For a limited amount of time, the American people said, "Okay, we'll let the federal government pass legislation that will compel free enterprise to do the right thing." And we'll compel people.
00:22:06 Marc
That free market that's supposed to be self-correcting was abusing its workers and it forced the government to step in and protect them.
00:22:14 James
And that all men that are created equal thing wasn't really turning out that way, so the federal government stepped in. Now the federal government wants to step in with everything. So we can look back and say, "Okay, the federal government had to step in right then." But now the Democrats have no policies to run on. So they want to step in everywhere. They want to equate these very bizarre pseudo ideas to the civil rights movement or through all the good pieces of legislation and the improvements to the Democratic Party of 50, 60, 70 years ago brought into American society. But the bank vault is empty, Marc. They have nothing to watch.
00:22:47 Marc
They tried to recover some of that former glory with the Affordable Care Act in 2009. The problem is that it was like a young movie director trying to create a blockbuster. He says, "I'm going to create the best movie ever." And it falls on its face. Why? Because their goal was to set out to make the best movie ever not to take care of the people. And that's what this was. This was billboard legislation. It never worked. It never had a chance of working. No one who has Obamacare actually likes Obamacare. They just accept it because that's the best option available to them. That was the last marquee legislation. That's the only marquee legislation we've gotten from the Democrats in the 21st century. And it was a complete failure.
00:23:34 James
That's not true, but I've heard President Biden say over and over again, he's passed the most legislation since FDR and LBJ and that Bill Better Act, and National Reduction Act, the stupid computer chip act. Mark, I've got to tell you.
00:23:46 Marc
That may be true. He may have passed more legislation, but I...
00:23:50 James
You stole my thunder. You stole my thunder.
00:23:53 Marc
Oh, okay.
00:23:54 James
Well, they keep rolling him out there and telling him to say, "We've passed more legislation. We've done this. We've done that." And I keep saying, "This would be great if this was 1960s and this stuff actually needs to be done and that this legislation you passed isn't actually lining the pockets – to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars in pork barrel spending – to everyone except the people it's meant to help." And this is why Joe Biden is so out of touch. This legislation will help no one and it wasn't designed to. See, that's the difference between the Democratic Party now and way back when. Everything we're talking about here, got signed before we were alive.
00:24:28 Marc
We'll be back with more. It's dead, Jim.
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00:24:54 Marc
The populist support for independent communist turned Democrat Bernie Sanders in 2016 sent shockwaves through the Democrat establishment. It was the first public and irrefutable evidence that the people were not happy with being left behind by Democrat leadership. If not for the Democrat Party's fear of actual democracy, Bernie would have been the Democrat nominee in 2016. The Bernie Zeitgeist continued into 2018 when 29-year-old bartender Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez displaced and trenched incumbent Joe Crowley in New York's 14th District. Alexandria's progressive platform and endorsements by Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama seemed to signal an evolution of the Democrat Party. The aging new left was being retired and the youthful progressive left was on the march. To her credit, Alexandria has tried to advance her progressive agenda, sponsoring 47 bills in six years. However, the only bill advanced from committee and passed by the House was a retread that had been submitted by members in a previous term. Just last month, Alexandria lost a bid for ranking member of the House Oversight Committee to an establishment Democrat who was supported by the most powerful woman in America, Nancy Pelosi. James, the progressives believe themselves to be the future of the Democrat Party, but have not made any headway in Congress. Do they simply have to wait for the elder generation to pass the torch? Or have they been living too long in their own echo chamber, and the soul of the Democrat Party remains moderate?
00:26:44 James
Well, the Democratic Party is dead, as we know it. I don't know what they're waiting for. I said years ago that AOC and Bernie Sanders should start their own party. They didn't do that. They just decided to turn the moderate, mainstream, American Democratic Party that did all the things we talked about in the last segment. Enter into the far left progressive national social Democrat Party. Good luck to them with that. No, Marc, they don't have to wait for the old moderate Democrats to die. Democratic Party, as we know it's already dead, they can have the party right now, and I wish them the best luck with it.
00:27:14 Marc
Has the brand outlived its usefulness? Is the next legitimate contender to the Republican Party going to be called Democrats, or does it have to be reshaped into something else like social Democrats, National Communists of America, something else?
00:27:29 James
If you've listened to the Social Democrats online, the Bernie Bros, some of them are heading in that direction, or some of them just want the Democrats to nominate the Social Democrats to go up against the populist Trump-era people, because the moderate Democrats, well, the first of all, there is no moderate Democratic anymore, but they're trying to sell people with the moderate Democrats. They tried to sell Joe Biden as a moderate. They tried to sell VP Harris as a moderate Democrat, but people aren't buying it. So the Far Left thinks let's just be honest with the American people and run an actual progressive candidate of which Joe Biden is not, or Trump or Harris is not, but you're trying to push the progressive agenda with it. It doesn't work because they don't want to sell it. The Democratic Party had been getting away with this for a generation of getting the working class voters to vote, the mainstream vote, to vote for them, even though they were tricking them into voting for the progressive agenda. That day is dead. Either they need to start a third party, like I told them the two four years ago, or just completely take over the Democratic apparatus and run as a left-wing party and not a Democrat party. Because there's a difference between left-wing politics and traditional mainstream Democrats politics. But I'll get into that on the later day.
00:28:35 Marc
And that's something that I think your average observer right now, especially on the Republican side, would have a hard time understanding because it's become such a name game over the last 25 years that Democrat equals left, Republican equals right. And in the last 10 years, if you're a Republican, you're a right-wing whack job, and if you're a Democrat, you must be a left-wing whack job because only a whack job would be a Democrat, and only a whack job would be a Republican.
00:29:01 James
Well, this is a vocabulary problem. You just say words with many different things. If I was to say I was left of center or right of center, I'm trying to say that I'm kind of a moderate person in American politics. I'm right of center. It means I'm probably socially liberal, but physically conservative. I say I'm left of center. It probably means I'd leave in a little bit more big government and a little bit more anti-war, right? These are very basic things. I'm left of center, I'm right of center. But when I'm saying the left is it equates to this conversation, I'm talking about the new left, the far left, socialist left, top down, government policy left, the inevitable course in social change left, the party of AOC, the party of Bernie Sanders. That's what I mean.
00:29:40 Marc
The left that, say, cuts their fire department budget so that they can have DEI training.
00:29:46 James
Yes, the left that says let's not have bail for major criminal offenses in large metropolitan areas. And then let's watch crime and homelessness and drug abuse, spike in 18 months to record levels and wonder why. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about these social engineer programs that were always on the fringes that have snuck in to the body politick of the entire Democratic Party and ruined it. Ruined one of the greatest political parties ever to exist anywhere in the world.
00:30:15 Marc
So as Ronald Reagan said, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, Democratic Party left me."
00:30:20 Marc
So the Democrat Party that we've been dealing with for the last 20 years, the only Democrat Party that the younger generations have known is not the Democrat Party who did all of these necessary programs in the mid-20th century. This is a Democrat Party that has pushed so far left that they've left the Democrat Party in the dust and someone like Donald Trump who by all traditional metrics should not be president has been elected president twice in non-consecutive terms, as a convicted felon, because why? Because the Democrats are out in left field.
00:31:08 James
Trump's just like, "We're going to win." Trump's campaign slogan really isn't making America great again. I guess that's just the identity of the Republican Party, I suppose. But it's the slogan, "Shamee, we're just going to win. We're America, we're awesome." And blue-colored voters and hardworking people that are struggling with money here and stuff like that. Donald Trump is a new Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton won that election night, he's just made people feel good about America. He made Democratic voters feel good about voting Democratic again. And Trump has made a centrist-moderate voters feel good about voting for a Republican candidate again. This is not as complicated as people want to make it seem.
00:31:44 Marc
James, any final thoughts?
00:31:45 James
Yes, I read the introduction to the show and when you really put it all together the way you did on the destruction of the Democratic Party that gave American society some really good pieces of legislation and set a leadership tone in the middle of the century that had not yet existed in America, especially looking out for working people and minorities. It's sad to see that it is dead. It's not dying is dead.
00:32:09 Marc
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